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<v ->Yeah, if we can unpack a little bit of that.</v>

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Arshay I want you if you can share,

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you've shared so much in the doc,

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and your memoir as well.

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If you can share a little bit of some of the trauma.

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Your mom, your grandfather.

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You know, then their children,

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their children's children, right?

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So many people feel a lot of this pain of where you grew up,

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what you had overcome, trying to be a part of it,

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and get out of it

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all at the same time,

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right?
(Arshay coughs)

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It's like a big stew of emotions that you can't

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turn into a meal, right?

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How in the world can you share and express

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what you've been through and what your mom

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and your grandpa especially had to go through?

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<v ->Yeah. Good question.</v>

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You know, I think about it still all the time.

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I think about it

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in a way of when I watch TV and there is a mass shooting

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in a suburban neighborhood and right away

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they send in these trauma counselors, which they should.

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And I remember saying

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wow, we experienced this all the time.

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I mean, we lost friends, we lost a teammate

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and we had no one to talk.

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There was no one to see, you have 800 kids in a school

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and one counselor and everyone on my team

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that you saw on the video had never seen a school counselor

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or a social worker at that time.

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And I'm thinking, this is, it was so rough for me.

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But I had to think about the trauma

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that my grandparents went through.

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they moved to Chicago because a best friend was hung

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on a tree and they saw that.

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And you know, and to say, well, Malcolm's brother

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right? I mean, Malcolm's mother, brother was hung on a tree.

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They all moved to Chicago

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for the same reason when they moved to Chicago.

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And after all the trauma they've been through in the South,

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the red line in Chicago

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you have to live in a certain community.

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You can't take out loans right? You can't get a mortgage.

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my grandmother's mother wasn't allowed to read.

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couldn't learn how to read

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and all these things that really

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they had my grandparents had to deal with

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and my mom will say I had to pay

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for my parents' trauma.

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And in what she had

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the resource she had was basically

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what the neighborhood had on those four corners.

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And those were liquor stores.

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That was the only thing she explained to me and Mary,

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when we met at the burger King

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before the film, is that, after all I went through

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because of that trauma, I didn't wanna feel anymore.

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So that's why i turned to, alcohol and drugs.

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And she recovered, she changed.

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And she found hope because of access and opportunity.

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But, you know for us,

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we had to endure the same thing we had to pay

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for the trauma that she had.

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And it just keep going forward, right?

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And so that was rough growing up.

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But because we didn't have the resources in our neighborhood

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and my friends didn't have the resources,

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I think, you know having sports

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and coaches was the people we had to turn to.

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And that's why you know,

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I'm so happy that we had the sport of rowing.

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You think about the scene in the barbershop, where Paul said

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"when they tore down the YMCA, I ran to the streets."

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There's a lot of young people that wanna belong.

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They're hungry.

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They're not just sitting there.

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They playing chess, they selling water bottles.

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They dealing drugs, they doing something, right?

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But because we just never had the resources

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in the community, like the West side of Chicago

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and no hope and no great leadership in that community.

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we don't make bad decisions but hard decisions

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and that's to eat and that's to protect ourselves.

